I am very tired with the constant criticism of teacher education, especially the concept that anyone can tell us what to do and how to do it, and evaluate us on their criteria, without any rational basis for the development of their criteria. I understand that teachers have tremendous power over children and youth, and should indeed be held to high standards. I also know that we in teacher education already evaluate ourselves and are constantly working to improve the quality of our graduates without additional pressure and research from groups who don't necessarily follow best research practices. The quality of teachers in schools and the effectiveness of their instruction is influenced by many, many factors, most of which have little to do with teacher education schools.
Joanne Curran, Ph.D.
Associate Dean
Division of Education
205A Fitzelle Hall
SUNY College at Oneonta
Oneonta, NY 13820-4015
(607) 436-2541
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From: Teaching Breakfast List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bao, Liangmei ([log in to unmask])
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:49 PM
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Subject: Teachers' Colleges Upset by Plan to Grade Them
I wonder what you think about the grading of teachers' colleges.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/education/09teachers.html?_r=1&hpw
Savannah Liangmei Bao, Ed.D.
Counselor & Alumni Network Development
Educational Opportunity Program
Office of Special Programs
115D Alumni Hall
SUNY College at Oneonta
Oneonta, NY 13820
Phone: (607) 436-3095
Fax: (607) 436-2996
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From: Teaching Breakfast List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nepkie, Janet ([log in to unmask])
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Student Grading Question
FERPA allows students to evaluate each other's work. Our own local
policies go well beyond FERPA requirements.
Education records are currently defined as records that are directly
related to a ³student² and maintained by an ³educational agency or
institution²
or by a party acting for the agency or institution.
(Owasso Indep. Sch.
Dist. No. I-011 v. Falvo, 534 U.S. 426 (2002)).
grades on studentsı papers
are not ³maintained² under the definition of ³education records² and,
therefore, would not be covered under FERPA at least until the teacher has
collected and recorded them in the teacherıs grade book, a decision
consistent
with the Departmentıs longstanding position on peer-grading. The Court
rejected
assertions that students were ³parties acting for² an institution when they
scored each otherıs work and that the student papers were, at that stage,
³maintained² within the meaning of FERPA.
Dr. J. Nepkie
SUNY Distinguished Service Professor
Professor of Music and Music Industry
Fine Arts 145
State University College
Oneonta, NY 13820
tele: (607) 436 3425
fax: 607 436 2718
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On 2/10/11 1:11 PM, "Helser, Terry ([log in to unmask])"
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>All interested parties,
> Can students evaluate other student's performances like team oral
>reports?
>The Faculty Handbook, which I know may not have any/full force of
>law/policy, says:
>"Students and Grading
>Students (including work study students, teaching assistants, etc.) must
>not
>be permitted to participate in any form of grading. This includes, but is
>not limited to, evaluating and/or assigning grades, posting grades,
>handling
>grade change forms or grade sheets." p. 75
>I have lab teams fill out a rubric evaluating other teams' reports and use
>them with my own to arrive at a grade for each student. I feel this is a
>valid and useful experience for all of them, but particularly for
>education
>majors. How do prospective teachers learn to evaluate their students
>without
>training and practice in education courses? Am I missing something? Seems
>like a catch 22, if the FH is taken literally.
>Cheers!
>Terry
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