Jack, I'm very interested in your data. Maybe we could spend a brief amount of time hearing what students say does NOT work, but then I hope we could center a Teaching Breakfast discussion around what actually works witih regard to teaching methods, with specific examples that I could follow in my own courses. Thanks Janet > ---------- > From: Kotz, John > Reply To: Teaching Breakfast List > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2002 9:03 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Teaching Breakfast Thursday!! > > Hello all - I was struck by Joanne's email re students and textbooks. > I just returned from the University of Colorado where I spoke to the > Chemistry Department and to a high school chemistry teachers group. > The title of my talk was "Is the Textbook Dead?" I have collected > fairly extensive data using a survey instrument developed at UMass > that indicates, fairly strongly, that students do not highly value > books as the primary vehicle for learning. This was supported by > anecdotal comments by faculty of the Chemistry Department at Boulder. > (As a textbook author I find it personally distressing.) Re Dick > Staley's work -- I find in my surveys that students value our online > homework system about equally with books, and that lectures lead > their list of effective ways to learn. I am not prepared to concede > the battle to have students use books as the primary source of > information but do believe that we should develop alternatives > learning materials. I would be happy to share my data with folks in > the TB. > > Since several people seem to be interested in this subject, maybe we > should put it off for another date. > > Jack > > > >Jim: I won't be able to attend, but I have a suggestion for a topic > >to be discussed. I am finding that students just seem incapable of > >reading and comprehending their texts independently. Dick Staley has > >been implementing a number of alternatives to working with the text. > >I'm sure other people have tried some techniques as well. Must we > >give up assuming that students will read and comprehend > >independently? I think so. Joanne > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greenberg, James > > Sent: Tue 11/5/2002 3:27 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Cc: > > Subject: Teaching Breakfast Thursday!! > > > > > > > > Hi TBers, > > > > Reminder that the Teaching Breakfast is this Thursday, Nov. 7 > >at 8 am in Morris Hall. > > > > My hopes for having a discussion on student aprehension to > >speaking and how it effects their learning have been dashed for the > >moment. I have been unable to coordinate it so far - but will keep > >trying. Thus, Thursday's get together will be to talk about > >whatever you would like, so please come with something on your mind > >you would like to talk about. Thanks. > > > > Mr. James B. Greenberg > > Director Teaching, Learning and Technology Center > > Milne Library > > SUNY College at Oneonta > > Oneonta, New York 13820 > > > > email: [log in to unmask] > > phone: 607-436-2701 > > > > "Ignorance is curable, stupidity lasts forever" > > > -- > John C. Kotz > University Distinguished Teaching Professor > Chemistry Department > State University of New York > Oneonta, NY 13820 > (office phone) 607-436-2454 > (home phone) 607-432-2646 > http://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/kotzjc/jckhome.html > >