Tber's Just a footnote to Jim's reference to retention rates. The figure for 2003 ( 47.2%) refers to the class which entered 6 years before and at that time the Freshman to Sophomore retention rate was about 60%. This fall we estimate the retention rate of last years' freshman to be 81%. Extrapolating from that, it will not be too long -- and we have already seen the six year increase % as we have retained more freshmen -- to be over 50% and then eventually 62% plus. ABD ________________________________ From: Teaching Breakfast List on behalf of Jim Greenberg Sent: Tue 8/30/2005 10:22 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Retention and Student Engagement Tbers, Reminder that the first TB of the year will be Sept. 7 at 8 am in Morris Hall. We will be talking about "student engagement". I'd be interested in hearing faculty thoughts on what they do, and what they think we can do to better engage our students. Steve Perry will be joining us. On a related matter, a faculty member recently pointed out the website www.collegeresults.org to me. It is very interesting. There are, for example, graduation rates for all of the colleges in the U.S. If you compare SUNY Oneonta with like schools, (or other SUNYs) we don't look very good. I'm not sure which years this data is for or exactly how they get it, but thought you might want to look it over. Mr. James B. Greenberg Director Teaching, Learning and Technology Center Milne Library SUNY College at Oneonta Oneonta, New York 13820 email: [log in to unmask] phone: 607-436-2701 fax: 607-436-3081 IM: oneontatltc "Ignorance is curable, stupidity lasts forever"