Jim et al. I think it's time that we start offering mini's in image editing, web design, digital video, etc. I have been kicking this idea around for years now. Our computer art students are coming in at much higher levels than they did just a few years ago and the rest of the campus population is far more graphically skilled. Many of our incoming computer art freshmen don't really need Computer Art I. If these things are taught in mini's they would be available to all, and computer art classes could concentrate more on the art than on the software applications. Sven Sven Anderson Computer Art Apple Distinguished Educator State University of New York, College at Oneonta [log in to unmask] http://www.svenanderson.com 607-436-3174 Office 607-437-1758 Cell 607-436-3717 Art Dept. Office 607-433-1266 Home "Remember, there are 24 hours in the day, and then there is the night too!"