I think I need to take exception with the phrase below “It is not idealistic to think that racism is not a problem, it is racist.” The definition of racism contains a very necessary connotation of malicious motive. It is not racist to think racism is not a problem, because there is no motive implied in such a view. While it may be that in some instances a person may be racist AND view racism to not be a problem, the generalization that "those who view racism to not be a problem must be racists" is not true. One could argue that it is ignorance to think that racism is not a problem, but that’s it. Let’s not go labeling almost a quarter of the students polled as racists without at least finding out more information about why they hold their viewpoint.
I believe you are correct. That’s how I responded (if I responded).
We think they are more idealistic than they report.
From: Teaching Breakfast List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Nowak, Rhea
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:55 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Who is Entering Higher Ed?
In the survey I thought we were responding to what we thought were their perceptions.
Rhea Nowak
Associate Professor of Art
SUNY College at Oneonta
Oneonta, NY
(607) 436-2827
From:
<McKay>, Zanna <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Teaching Breakfast List <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:44 AM
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Who is Entering Higher Ed?
Or looking at discrimination, they are more aware of racial discrimination then we are.
Just a thought…
Zanna
From:
<Nowak>, Rhea <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Teaching Breakfast List <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:03 AM
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Who is Entering Higher Ed?
So our students communicate to us they feel more overwhelmed than they actually do.
We were pretty close on wanting to become accomplished in a performing arts and identify as white.
They are more aware of racial discrimination than we think they are.
They feel more empowered than we think they do.
Am I reading this correctly?
Thanks,
Rhea
Rhea Nowak
Associate Professor of Art
SUNY College at Oneonta
Oneonta, NY
(607) 436-2827
From:
<Greenberg>, Jim <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Teaching Breakfast List <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:56 AM
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Who is Entering Higher Ed?
TBers,
A month ago I sent out a survey asking members of this listserv what percentages of the entering undergraduate class (nationally) you believe meets the indicated
criterion. Here are the results vs. the actual numbers (based on CIRP data for Fall 2012) .
|
Mr. James B.Greenberg
Director Teaching, Learning, and Technology Center
Milne Library
SUNY Oneonta
Oneonta, NY 13820
Email:
[log in to unmask]
Phone: 607-436-2701
Twitter: greenbjb