I echo Paul’s comments, (and I believe my own previous comments) in expressing great pleasure at Jim’s renewed participation on our listserv.  Jim has a rare, unique ability to point to the need for improvement without finding fault with people who might have initiated improvement.  I’m glad Jim is part of this conversation.  He encourages us to work together for the greater good of our students.
Janet

Dr. J. Nepkie
SUNY Distinguished Service Professor
Music and Music Industry
Fine Arts 145
State University College
Oneonta, NY 13820
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From: Teaching Breakfast List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of "Conway, Paul" <[log in to unmask]>
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Reading those articles that we generated by Jim’s initiative, I was reminded about gaps in the SUCO curricum that i used to lament. I believe course in “Courage in public affairs” and “Ethical behavior in politics” would be profoundly useful as well as exciting to students.

Cheers, to Jim and breakfast chatters!

Sent from my iPad
Paul Conway
1 College Park Drive
Oneonta, NY 13820


"History without political science has no fruit;
Political Science without history has no root."
                                                                                             (John Seeley, 1896)


On Aug 27, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Nowak, Rhea <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/opinion/oh-the-humanities.html
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Opinion | Oh, the Humanities! - The New York Times<https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/opinion/oh-the-humanities.html>
www.nytimes.com<http://www.nytimes.com>
New data on college majors confirms an old trend. Technocracy is crushing the life out of humanism.


Another on this topic.

best,

Rhea






Rhea Nowak
Associate Professor of Art
SUNY Oneonta
Fine Art Center
Ravine Parkway
Oneonta, NY 13820
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there is always more than "one way to skin a cat".

Jay

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Unfortunately FERPA doesn't like the idea of letting the parents know about Johnnies transgressions.

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Fleisher, P. Jay <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Paul,

I suggest you Google ways to prevent cheating for ideas that work for you.  However, the fact is some students will find a way to cheat regardless of preventive measure.  Let it happen, then let the parents know you think "Johnny" has cheated.  Let them deal with it - they pay the bills.  A worthless education is their problem, not yours.

Jay

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thanks, Jim.

i hope to read this one. i have been stymied by cheating issues, so this should relate, thatwise.

one problem is i can’t stand being a policeman.

P

On Aug 25, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Greenberg, Jim <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

TBers,



As the beginning of the semester nears, I couldn’t resist posting this here.  Ignore, enjoy, or be indifferent as you wish.  It kept my attention long enough for me to make it to the end.



A wild muddle<https://aeon.co/essays/have-elite-us-colleges-lost-their-moral-purpose-altogether>

The ethical formation of citizens was once at the heart of the US elite college. Has this moral purpose gone altogether?<https://aeon.co/essays/have-elite-us-colleges-lost-their-moral-purpose-altogether>

By Chad Wellmon<https://aeon.co/users/chad-wellmon>

associate professor of German studies at the University of Virginia.





Jim Greenberg